{"id":3493,"date":"2010-05-25T16:43:35","date_gmt":"2010-05-25T14:43:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/tokao.com\/?p=3493"},"modified":"2010-05-25T16:43:35","modified_gmt":"2010-05-25T14:43:35","slug":"back-up-your-photos-in-the-cloud-flickr-or-picasaweb","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/tokao.com\/wordpress\/2010\/05\/25\/back-up-your-photos-in-the-cloud-flickr-or-picasaweb\/","title":{"rendered":"Back up your photos in the cloud: Flickr or Picasaweb?"},"content":{"rendered":"

Photography is one of my passions. I have http:\/\/norai.net <\/a>with some nice photos that I don’t actually update very often just because it requires and effort of, opening Lightroom in my mac, connect to the photo folder in my media centre, edit those that I think can go to the web, export them to 800px upload them… bla bla…<\/p>\n

It is a petty because I have tons of photos. It is a petty also that those that I have in norai I have not a full size copy of them as I just did it for the web…<\/p>\n

I have a very peculiar workflow for photos. My media server with 2x2Tb HDs has about 150Gb of Jpegs and 150Gb of Raws.<\/p>\n

When I take a photo with my nikon d300 I take it in Raw (only for the past couple of years), then I save it in a Photos Raw<\/strong> folder with the date-event folder. Then I process them with DxO<\/a> which generates a Jpeg with the corrected noise, lens distortion and so. I move the jpgs to a folder named the same in a Photos<\/strong> folder.<\/p>\n

Picasa is the program I use in the\u00a0media centre\u00a0to \u00a0see the photos.<\/p>\n

On the other hand, the photos I take with my iPhone are in my Mac using iPhoto. I don’t know why… but I take a lot of photos with the iPhone.<\/p>\n

Up to now I used to upload the Jpgs to my servers downstairs where I have Gallery2 from menalto. It is good, but videos are not great and again it is here and I am trying to move away from depending on my server.<\/p>\n

Now I was considering to have an offsite copy of all my photos. I could go for something like backblaze<\/a> (or mozy<\/a>, though I prefere the first), pay $5 per month and forget, or go for an online cloud gallery. This backup solutions are good. Backblaze lets you back up usb drives connected to a machine, even if they are not always connected. I have the Media server with 2Tb and then it has 1Tb USB drive and a 500Mb one… so it would be a good option… but the stuff I really need is in my mac (320Gb) which backs up to a TimeMachine in the Linux Server….<\/p>\n

The two major players are Flickr<\/a> and Picasaweb<\/a>. Sure you have Smugmug<\/a> which is the one that looks the best and others such as expono<\/a>, snapixel<\/a>.<\/p>\n

For me the ideal would be picasaweb basically because I don’t care about the community (where flickr is strong) and it is just a switch in picasa to have everything sync with the web. If I work on the face tags or locations, everything is happily\u00a0synchronised. In addition to this I like the fact that I can keep my folder structure in the media server and picasa will just be a layer to display it and\u00a0synchronise\u00a0it with the web.<\/p>\n

So what is wrong?<\/p>\n

Google sells space. Basically 20Gb for $5 per year or 200Gb for $50. I have 150Gb of Jpgs. Unfortunately there is NO SERVICE that would allow me to upload my NEF (raw files) and they will create the Jpgs or something.<\/p>\n

This is expensive. I would have to go for 200Gb so $50 per year.<\/p>\n

Another problem is that there is no good iphone app to upload from the iPhone your photos and videos to picasaweb (hello!!).<\/p>\n

Then we have Flickr. Flickr is cheap. $25 per year for unlimited space. If I just want a backup then why not go for flickr?<\/p>\n

I don’t like it. I know the community is the best one, so if you want to promote your photos then it is far better. If you want to make profit by selling them then smugmug pro is the winner ($150 year).<\/p>\n

Flickr has not desktop app. They don’t respect my folder structure. If I choose flickr and I have 150Gb to upload, I would love to keep my folder structure in sets (this is what flickr considers folders) but the flickr uploadr doesn’t allow that. So I would end up with 50.000 photos in a bucket and then do the job online to classify them on sets, collections do the map thing (which sucks compared to google map) and faces… (again!!).<\/p>\n

So here I am. On one side the winner is google, but I think they are expensive and I don’t know how fast my storage demands will grow, but for me today is twice the price of flickr.<\/p>\n

On the other side, everybody use flickr. I guess you get use to it, but the sycn and the process of uploading the photos… for that I continue with gallery2 in my servers, I copy everything to an external HD, I plug it in my mums and I rsync it once in a while. But then what do I do with the videos I take with the phone? Put them all in youtube?<\/p>\n

Maybe…<\/p>\n

Anybody went to this hard choice?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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